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Post by mistermanager on Jul 29, 2008 21:30:39 GMT -5
I was wondering what camera you fellas are using, or going to be using for "I'm still here". I remember seeing something you had on vimeo with some test footage, but I can't remember hat it was. I just recently purchased the HG10, which is working out pretty well so far. So anyways, what you got?
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Jul 29, 2008 23:11:56 GMT -5
Hey! The camera we're using for I'M STILL HERE, is the HV30. The primary difference between our HV30 and your HF10 is the shooting format that both camcorders are utilizing, despite them both being in the VIXIA lineup of camcorders. They both have their own pros and cons as well when it comes to their shooting formats. With your HF10, I love that it can shoot directly to hard drive, thus eliminating all the need for tape. But the AVCHD format is rough to edit with on Final Cut Pro, and is still in the evolutionary process. With HV30, it films in HDV, which gives great visuals, but is also a problematic form for many editors unless its converted into something else (i.e. DVCPROHD). The main reason for going with the HV30 in the long run, is that we plan on building the rest of our equipment out of the HDV line (keeping my fingers crossed for an XL-H1A next year) when we add another camera to the HV30. For more info definitely check out Canon's main website or head here: www.hv20.comIt was originally made for the camcorder preceding the HV30, but they are practically identical machines, and thus are discusses simultaneously on those boards.
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Post by mistermanager on Aug 1, 2008 0:51:21 GMT -5
Is the picture quality any different between the two cameras? I watched the directors blog 2 video and the location scouting footage looked good. Here is a link to a video I made with some test footage with the hg10, if you are interested: vimeo.com/1427859What did you shoot noir with? I actually just got the copy I ordered in the mail today, and I was going to watch it with my girlfriend, but she was cranky so it'll have to wait. I'm pumped to see it, thanks again for sending me the copy.
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Aug 1, 2008 21:34:28 GMT -5
Well, according to this topic here which compares the HV20 to the HG10 (The HV20 is nearly identical to the HV30, the only difference is the HV30 adds 30p filming and is black): www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=5727The HV edges out the HG slightly due to the process that the HG's formatting has to go through. Although I definitely found your footage to be incredibly lush, and right on par with the test shoot we did a few weeks earlier. Oh, and I'm glad you finally got your copy of NOIR! I hope you enjoy it. The camcorder we used was a Canon GL1, a camcorder that was about 8 years old when we used it to film NOIR last year. So the jump in visual quality from NOIR to I'M STILL HERE will probably be the noticeable thing people see in this new flick lol. Once again, hope you enjoy. Definitely hit us back with some feedback once you get done watching the film that started it all for us haha!
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erokaze
Corner Puzzle Piece
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Post by erokaze on Nov 6, 2008 4:47:15 GMT -5
i need a camera *sob
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Nov 11, 2008 15:46:08 GMT -5
Why don't you try a new concept film where you shoot with a cell phone videocamcorder! Think of the angle possibilities! It would be a revolution in filming haha!
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Post by kuriboi2k6 on Nov 19, 2008 11:06:47 GMT -5
Sup harry? Jamon from vimeo here hahaha.
I had a few minor equipment questions. I have a shotgun mic, The DM-50. Most, if not all of my shots will be indoors so I'm sure that will be fine as far as sound goes. We are going to buy a couple of work lights for use as well so that is covered.
Also I'm still very impressed with the quality of your trailer. I've seen test footage of the HV30 before which factored in my decision to purchase it, but since I'm still very much a newbie I'm still in awe hahaha.
To get to my point, I was wondering if you had any other suggestions as far as equipment goes. For a steadycam I was just going to do the tri-pod method so that should be covered again...
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Nov 19, 2008 12:01:39 GMT -5
Hey welcome aboard Jamon ! From the look of things, it seems you've got a lot of your basics well in order. The fact that you're bringing in some lighting equipment will give your scenery a very dynamic presence. It'll open up a lot of different aspects you can bring to your visuals, and lead to some very cool shots. You're also right on in the area of the shotgun mic, and the steadycam trick. During the filming of "I'M STILL HERE", we were actually pretty amazed at how stable of shots you could get by simply keeping the tripod closed, and shoulder mounting it. Not only does it turn the HV30 into a mini-shoulder mount camcorder, but it opens a lot of doors for very cool angles. You'll be surprised the innovation you'll be able to pull from low-budget resources. As for extra equipment, the needs and demands of each film crew are always going to be different depending on the project. Back when we filmed our first feature film "NOIR", we pretty much used a Canon GL1 and a boom mic inserted directly into the cam. However, with "I'M STILL HERE", things were done a lot differently. We ended up using a whole arsenal of tools for audio capturing. A boom mic, mp3 recorder, field mixer, and a portable generator to keep everything powered. While it made for great audio capturing, it was definitely a burden moving things from scene to scene. Especially when you're doing stuff indie style...which means without permits, and on the run Other then that...I think you should be off to a good start. Just make sure you're familiar with your equipment before you get out there, especially when it comes to the HV30. While it is a very good camcorder, it still is a consumer grade device, meaning it definitely has its limitations. While this thing runs circles around our old GL1, the GL1 was still more customizable because it was a pro-level machine. So that is something to keep in mind! Also, be sure to look into buying (or if you have other means ), the Magic Bullet editing suite. They've got great programs in there for color grading, and making your films look great. As awesome as the "I'M STILL HERE" footage looks, it most definitely did not look like that straight from the cam. So be sure to be as strong as possible when it comes to editing! Hope that answers your question! If you've got questions about any other equipment in particular let me know, I'll answer back the best I can! Thanks again for joining!
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Post by kuriboi2k6 on Nov 19, 2008 14:45:50 GMT -5
Thanks again for the reply!
As for editing, I got my hands on adobe after effects cs3 so i'm gonna mess around with that and Vegas pro 8. I'm on my laptop doing some minor editing for now (Good thing its a powerful little thing!) and i'm getting an iMac probably in Jan or feb to really get into the swing of editing so I'll have final cut to mess with.
Are you familiar with After effects by any chance? Also I will definitely look into the Magic bullet stuff!
Thanks again!
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Nov 19, 2008 20:27:14 GMT -5
After Effects is a great application for accomplishing polished touches on your footage. There are a lot of different things that can be accomplished through using AE. I would suggest looking at online tutorials (youtube is a great start), and getting books (try your local library) on how to work it. Saying that After Effects is incredibly deep, is probably the biggest understatement of the year haha!
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Post by kuriboi2k6 on Nov 24, 2008 13:00:59 GMT -5
Ok good! I'll def how to check out tutorial on AE in the near future, for now I just have to get used to the HV30. We start filming on Dec 27th and finish up on the 10th of Jan so i'm going to give myself a few months to edit (or pay someone to help me edit XD) so it's good to know I'm on the right track with all the equipment etc!
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Post by mistermanager on Nov 25, 2008 14:53:33 GMT -5
creativecow.com has a lot of good tutorials. It's kind of hard to navigate the site though... for me at least.
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Dec 4, 2008 23:35:49 GMT -5
creativecow.com has a lot of good tutorials. It's kind of hard to navigate the site though... for me at least. Yeah, there site is a little funky, but the advice is fantastico! They are actually really good for just about any graphic/video design tool. In addition to being a Power Trio cofounder and college student, I'm also a graphic/web-designer for a research library at Ohio State, and let me tell you...that site is like the unofficial partner for me working on different art structures! I also go coo coo for youtube.com tutorial vids. All great resources to utilize!
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Post by publicist on Feb 18, 2009 10:37:43 GMT -5
u know u guys would of been flyin high with Speski's equipment... he still would have been like um....jeez... guys .. idk where that equipment went?
~Publicist~
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Post by Harry Locke IV on Feb 18, 2009 21:19:18 GMT -5
u know u guys would of been flyin high with Speski's equipment... he still would have been like um....jeez... guys .. idk where that equipment went? ~Publicist~ Haha, did Walter by any chance tell you we actually did leave out with that one audio box still attached to the camcorder by accident lol!
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